Official GW Scams Thread (no posting names)

[Angela Marika]

ONE MORE THING TO NOTE FOR THE QUEST TO WORK: You must only give the ashes through TRADING in that particular town. It still works but perhaps arena net is fixing it already. Althea's ashes is very simple though.

[codemonkey]

Originally Posted by Angela Marika

ONE MORE THING TO NOTE FOR THE QUEST TO WORK: You must only give the ashes through TRADING in that particular town. It still works but perhaps arena net is fixing it already. Althea's ashes is very simple though.

Yeah, Althea's ashes is a cake walk ;-)
(thick and heavy sarcasm)

Arena Net loves to make those easy quests a few thousand xp.

CodeMonkey

[Havock]

The new thing is to offer to "run" people from Beacon's Perch to the forge (after all is one of the best places to get good armor). The usual fee is 5P
(the scammer wants either all or half up front) DON'T DO IT!!!
Some of these people will at least try a couple of times before they disapear, the really bad ones are the ones that just logout when they have a full party ready to go.
(I caught up with one of these ***** right after he discon and came back as another character, all he did was set me to ignor when I asked him what the issue was).
I don't think of myself as gullible but this happened twice in the same night. To the tune of 5P.
First I could really care less about 5P, I can get that back with a little work and time, but violating my trust and lieing to me is another matter.
I would really like to see these people stripped of their characters and have to start over again, but that is me.

The warning I would give is if you want someone to run you to the forge do not give any gold up front offer to give them half at the half way point and the rest at the forge (if they demand it you can be sure it is a scam).
Hope you have better luck then I did (I did finaly find somebody that wasn't scamming, but one out of three is not very good odds.

[codemonkey]

Originally Posted by Havock

The new thing is to offer to "run" people from Beacon's Perch to the forge (after all is one of the best places to get good armor). The usual fee is 5P
(the scammer wants either all or half up front) DON'T DO IT!!!
Some of these people will at least try a couple of times before they disapear, the really bad ones are the ones that just logout when they have a full party ready to go.
(I caught up with one of these ***** right after he discon and came back as another character, all he did was set me to ignor when I asked him what the issue was).
I don't think of myself as gullible but this happened twice in the same night. To the tune of 5P.
First I could really care less about 5P, I can get that back with a little work and time, but violating my trust and lieing to me is another matter.
I would really like to see these people stripped of their characters and have to start over again, but that is me.

The warning I would give is if you want someone to run you to the forge do not give any gold up front offer to give them half at the half way point and the rest at the forge (if they demand it you can be sure it is a scam).
Hope you have better luck then I did (I did finaly find somebody that wasn't scamming, but one out of three is not very good odds.

My general rule is "don't give anyone you don't know a single gold piece for any promises."

I use this same theory when dealing with real life:

Don't run down dark alleyway in New Orleans asking if anyone could tell you where the nearest bank is so that you can deposit your thousand dollars

CodeMonkey

[wallin]

In response to the Altheas ashes stuff:

A few nights ago someone was offering altheas ashes for free in pikens. I figured what the heck, why not, and went ahead and accepted some (through the trade window). I hadn't done duke's daughter yet, but after doing that, I got the ashes quest, and immediately talked to barradin again. I was given the reward and the quest went away. Looks like its not a scam anymore, or perhaps I got lucky. Either way, I never had to actually go get the ashes themselves.

Oddly enough, he didn't have the excalamation above his head when I gave him back the ashes, and although he took the ashes, he gave me back an urn. Not sure if this is normal or not, but I have nothing to do with the urn.

[codemonkey]

Originally Posted by wallin

In response to the Altheas ashes stuff:

A few nights ago someone was offering altheas ashes for free in pikens. I figured what the heck, why not, and went ahead and accepted some (through the trade window). I hadn't done duke's daughter yet, but after doing that, I got the ashes quest, and immediately talked to barradin again. I was given the reward and the quest went away. Looks like its not a scam anymore, or perhaps I got lucky. Either way, I never had to actually go get the ashes themselves.

Oddly enough, he didn't have the excalamation above his head when I gave him back the ashes, and although he took the ashes, he gave me back an urn. Not sure if this is normal or not, but I have nothing to do with the urn.

Ok, there seems to be some confusion here

The Non-Scam: Being given althea's ashes
The Scam: Being given the urn after the quest is done.

Make sense?

CodeMonkey

[GraceAlone]

I happened to me as well on ashes. Completed the quest went back to the duke but he didn't take the ashes. Still got the reward though. I tried to give it away just to see if it would work but no one was interested so I just trashed it. That's interesting though :?

[wallin]

Originally Posted by codemonkey

Ok, there seems to be some confusion here

The Non-Scam: Being given althea's ashes
The Scam: Being given the urn after the quest is done.

Make sense?

CodeMonkey

Makes sense.

[codemonkey]

Originally Posted by wallin

Makes sense.

Right on!

CodeMonkey

Just wanted to add to the RIP OFF list. Do not buy from Luciffers Archer. Friend of mine (fairly new to GW) purchased a bow from him which was customized for Luciffer so is totally useless to the buyer. After noticing it right after the transaction (unfortunately too late for the buyer) he confronted Luciffer & asked to trade back.. Luciffer acted like he didnt know the item was customized and said he just spent all of the money (this happened in about 2 seconds after the transaction).. so we all know this is a ripoff and my friend is wiser now but I think it sucks that there are punks like that out there screwing up the game.

[codemonkey]

Originally Posted by JustAWarrior

Just wanted to add to the RIP OFF list. Do not buy from Luciffers Archer. Friend of mine (fairly new to GW) purchased a bow from him which was customized for Luciffer so is totally useless to the buyer. After noticing it right after the transaction (unfortunately too late for the buyer) he confronted Luciffer & asked to trade back.. Luciffer acted like he didnt know the item was customized and said he just spent all of the money (this happened in about 2 seconds after the transaction).. so we all know this is a ripoff and my friend is wiser now but I think it sucks that there are punks like that out there screwing up the game.

Yes, I don't really grasp the idea of customized items being useless to all other players. I think they should just cost more to re-customize to your character.

But I know where you're coming from. If your new to the game you wouldn't really know (I don't even think customization is covered in the manual).

In fact, not sure why they even let you trade customized items anyway. Since they serve no purpose but, perhaps, salvage.

CodeMonkey

[Angela Marika]

Originally Posted by Havock

The new thing is to offer to "run" people from Beacon's Perch to the forge (after all is one of the best places to get good armor). The usual fee is 5P
(the scammer wants either all or half up front) DON'T DO IT!!!
Some of these people will at least try a couple of times before they disapear, the really bad ones are the ones that just logout when they have a full party ready to go.
(I caught up with one of these ***** right after he discon and came back as another character, all he did was set me to ignor when I asked him what the issue was).
I don't think of myself as gullible but this happened twice in the same night. To the tune of 5P.
First I could really care less about 5P, I can get that back with a little work and time, but violating my trust and lieing to me is another matter.
I would really like to see these people stripped of their characters and have to start over again, but that is me.

The warning I would give is if you want someone to run you to the forge do not give any gold up front offer to give them half at the half way point and the rest at the forge (if they demand it you can be sure it is a scam).
Hope you have better luck then I did (I did finaly find somebody that wasn't scamming, but one out of three is not very good odds.

I am just lucky I guess. My maiden attempt was successful. I got run by a warrior - Miranna Millanis (I might have gotten her name wrong) from Beacon's to Forge for 2 K only. (1k at snake dance, the other at rankor) I must say she is very responsible. Took around 2 hours though. She died many times but didn't giver up. Commendable effort. So if you people see her at Beacon's, you can trust her. Everyone in my group was happy and oh yes - I spent 25k getting the forge armor for my monk. Why the hell do monks need 200 over parchment for armor - lol.....and they look terrible imho!

Note: Sir Protector is a scammer - He offers to run you but will log out. Beware. There are some genuine people but you just have to sus them out.

[MrWho]

Another one for the ignore lists.

User Nova Latin was spamming to sell a Sup Absorb for 50k in the trades.

Screenshot of spam:


We went through a trade, he/she showed the Superior Absorb and closed the window. I went back to trade again, and this is what happened:



The classic rune switch. I always look though, so he didn't get me.

Just be careful, folks.

_jew

[codemonkey]

Its amazing what people will do to screw you over eh? Yeah, I always look for a few key terms: The name of the item and any subtext (customized by ....) that may exist.

To be honest, nobody has every tried to pull a fast one on me besides the typical "oops, wrong amount of money" for an item. Usually if its off by 10 bucks or we've been talking for awhile (so I know they're fairly cool) its no big deal, but if they want to buy something for 350 and I see 150 in the window I cancel and move on. I don't care if they would pay it to me, I would rather give it to a more honest person.

CodeMonkey

CodeMonkey

[Starsky-sama]

50k is big money or trades that include valuable stuff. that's serious.

with my recent experience, its just ridiculous. i was trying to get bleached shells for that collector shield and i went from town to town asking. I get to amnoon. and most ppl do honestly get mixed up with "shells" and "carapaces".

but this one guy. I even asked him repeatedly, "thats shell right not caraps", and
they answered "yes" repeatedly. so i view their trade.
he shows me a "Bleached Caraps" and quickly retracts it. he does this 3 times and keeps asking me "submit the money/ accept"

???

thing here is their trying to screw me for "400gold". wowzer
he could have gotten 1k doing monsters kills for money and not wasting both our time trying to scam me at that moment.

hilarious.

again. with all trades take the time to read and look over. there is no real hurry to accept anything til both parties are good and ready. when somone is rushing, you know something shady is happening.
(with this experience it did really bring me back to the old diablo scammers, long long long time ago.hehe)

-cheerz.

[thanks camera]

you're the biggest nubbie nubbie ever. i have 2 15k armors if anyone is interested.

[thegriffgeeks]

Originally Posted by thanks camera

you're the biggest nubbie nubbie ever. i have 2 15k armors if anyone is interested.

hmm me thinks Thanks Camera is a scammer. Why, cause 1st he flames, then he says he as something to sell.

And is it just me, but I didn't think this thread was about selling...maybe I misread the title......'SCAMS::: watch out '

[wheel]

Hi. My name is Slash Dot. I am a Droknar's Forge rusher. I am tired of people complaining about rushers being all scammers. I am going to post this because I'm sick of people whining about being scammed.

FYI, for those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, a Droknar's Forge rush is defined as someone taking a party of 5 people down to Droknar's Forge from Beacon's Perch. Each player pays to be rushed. It lets you get the best armor in the game and level up quickly, which is very useful for people on their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th character.

Being a scammer is easy because people aren't too bright online, and as the saying goes, a fool and his money soon do part. But anyway, to spot a scammer, follow the following guidelines. They'll simply advertise something like this (this is an ad that I've seen just a few minutes ago):

Running to Camp Rankor to Droknar's Forge for 3k now -> 2k later - 30 minutes or money back [Whisper Me]

To spot a scammer ask the following questions:

1) Are they charging up front? First requirement of being a scam.
2) How long do they take for the run? If they don't know how long it takes or it takes more than 30 minutes, find another rusher.
3) Do they know what the zones are between Beacon's Perch and Droknar's Forge? Hint: Answer is Lornar's Pass, Dreadnought's Drift, Snake Dance, Camp Rankor [Outpost], and Talus Chute. If they don't know anything about it, they're scamming.
4) Do people start scream out "PLAYER IS SCAMMING!!" whenever that person advertises?
5) Ask them what level their tactics are on. If they don't have anything in tactics, ask them how they prevent knockdown. No answer? Move on, this one's a scammer.

This is for when you're already on the run and they charge at Snake Dance or some other place between Beacon's Perch and Rankor. Most of the people who charge at Snake Dance are legitimate, but some rush you to Snake Dance then take your money and run.
1) Are they having difficulty with the run? If they are, they may just be new to rushing, or they may just be bad because they're only there to scam you.
2) Do they know what the zones are called? If not, they probably are scamming you.
3) Do they act like they know about what parts are difficult and what parts are easy? If they don't know what makes Snake Dance difficult, for instance (knockdown), they are probably scamming you.

If someone is advertising payment at Rankor, that person is almost certainly legitimate, because the rush from Rankor to the Forge is extremely easy. They would be stupid to take half your money at Rankor and ditch you because they would earn the other half easily going to the Forge. If someone has ditched you at Rankor, PM me and I'll rush you for free. If you ditched me at Rankor, I know who you are and don't talk to me. :-)

I hope this post makes you all a little bit smarter to the scams that are out there. Read it and know it.

By the way, I rush most of the time when I am on my character Slash Dot. I charge 6k per player due at Snake Dance. If you want to see my reputation, ask someone in Beacon's Perch District 1 (most people who are regulars and even some that aren't). They will tell you that I am reputable and legit. Anyway, that's that. Good luck to everyone!

[codemonkey]

You have to remember a few things: people that are scammed are upset, and forums are a great place to complain.

Although you may be legit, there are 10 more like you that find it easier to lie cheat and steal. So generalizing and stereotyping rushers is pretty easy

How do you avoid being scammed yourself? If you ask for the money when you arrive, can't the others just simply NOT pay you?

However, just as many of us generalize and say "rushers are all scammers" I just saw you generalize and state if I don't have the right tactics I must be a scammer. Not 100% true.

Other then that, thanks for the info on how to make someone more trustable... I'd still not risk it in either case. Someone could be a better scammer, be able to answer those questions you may ask, and still try. The only key that I see is don't part with your money without seeing the reward for the cost. I'd not pay until I see the destination 10 feet in front of me

CodeMonkey

[bobert]

I just encountered a scam. some guy, (i don't know if im allowed to post scammers here, if i can i will post it) tried to sell me a Family Sigil, instead of the Celestial Sigil to buy Guild Halls. watch out